Monday, 16 February 2009

Unions achieving very little for staff in lower grades

Are Trade Unions worth joining in 2009? Do members actually see a benefit, or is it just piece of mind; the thought and probable safety you may feel in being part of a crowd; being a member of a 'safety net' organisation that is bigger than one person - just in case?

Subscriptions to the average trade union is as follows:

Gross salary/Monthly subscription
£10,000 / £5
£12,000 / £6
£14,000 / £7
£18,000 / £9
£20,000 / 10

Case Study from the point of view of a junior civil servant

After 23 years in teaching, followed by 11 years in the private sector, in 2001 I joined the Ministry of Defence.

Being over 60 I have no intention of seeking promotion, and the small pay rise that would go with it, as I simply don't want the hassle.

Although it was my decision to join the civil service I am continually shocked at how low our pay is. After seven years I take home just £1,032 a month.

I don't begrudge those who are higher paid. But I do think that to pay thousands of us so badly is a national disgrace. I am fortunate being in a 'double income - no kids' household. How on earty parents with young families survive I do not know. [name and address supplied]

[In comparison, MOD salaries are higher than that of those working for the Welsh Assembly Government]


Anonymous 16 February 2009 at 09:43  

Peace of mind may be :>)not piece
I fully support Union membership and have always been in one,still am even though I work for myself.You can opt out of Political support.I feel if they aint doing enough ,then the members should sort em.
Its up to the membership to get what they need and want through the democratic process, bit like governement really.Just think how bad the pay would be with out them.

Anonymous 16 February 2009 at 14:28  

Unions can be trusted with the basics but nothing else. If there's too much of a struggle involved they tend to cave in too easily.

Confused Boyo 16 February 2009 at 18:30  

Am I the only one who doesn't know what was going on at work today? The Bay was on fire with whispers and One Tory AM's phone line was engaged all day, whilst one Plaid AM who is off on her travels was not answering her mobile number.

Can anyone shed any light?

Confused of Cardiff Bay.

confused in the bay 17 February 2009 at 08:23  

Please tell us more Confused Boyo. It's obvious that the usual gossip sources are not obliging.

In the know girlo 17 February 2009 at 08:50  

Why doesn't someone give that Alun out of the Tories a call, see if he has heard the gossip?

Jenkins for queen 17 February 2009 at 08:53  

I heard a sex scandal was mentioned over on Ramblings yesterday but it was quickly removed.

MoJoe 17 February 2009 at 09:40  

I don't blame Miss W or Welsh Ramblers for not touching this, as those who know what rumours are going around know that it doesn't involve anyone from the Labour Party!

Wagstaff will want to protect any tory who may has been caught up to no good and Plaid leaning ramblers will surely want to protect their parties involvment with any potential story, which will probably end up being a chinese whispers affair, much like Nick Bourne.

This is where we need a genuine Labour leaning blog, run by neither of the Leadership camp's trolls, where real debate about the other parties can begin. I am thinking of saying come back DT all is forgiven! Whatever lays behind this rumour mill, reputations could be harmed.

I can just see it now, it will all be proved nonsense started by some fella in a pub, whose sister told him that their milkan saw....... and then we will have the old "No smoke with out fire" thing doing the rounds. Or maybe it will turn out to be true. "Who knows?"

Anonymous 17 February 2009 at 17:04  

who ever does isnt telling - but there is smoke here

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