Following on from an earlier post it seems that three Welsh councils, Anglesey, Conwy and Powys are reaching for their bowls.
The councils with the lowest grant rise in Wales are to appeal to an assembly government minister for an increase.
Powys, Anglesey and Conwy councils, which are scheduled to receive between 1% and 1.1%, will press for at least a 1.5% rise next year.
Local Government Minister Brian Gibbons was described as anticipating a "constructive discussion" with them.
Last month, the assembly government said grants across Wales were "tight" but called it a "realistic deal".
The latest meeting comes a week after a cross-party delegation from Powys Council held talks with mid Wales AMs.
The delegation, which will meet Dr Gibbons in Cardiff on Wednesday, is being led by Powys Council and also includes the Welsh Local Government Association.
What are the chances of the response being, "You've got to pick a pocket or two"?