Tuesday, 4 December 2007

Wales 20:20 A new commission by Karen Sinclair AM

I received an email from a fellow blogger yesterday morning. Don't know why I've published this post as they haven't linked to my blog, and more importantly they seem to have emailed the entire country in the process, but it does make sense - even if the words do follow what other politicians have been saying for some time.

It reads:

Following on from the very successful test-launch of the Wales 20:20 think tank and online forum earlier this year, we are delighted to announce our re-launch today with the publication of a new commission by Karen Sinclair AM.

In her pamphlet Karen Sinclair, By Our Common Endeavours - addresses the current state of links with England across a range of areas and their importance in fostering economic progress. The Labour AM said she hoped to start a comprehensive debate on the importance of the issue across Wales.

You can read Karen's new pamphlet in full, and join in the discussion in our new and improved online forum, simply by logging on to our fully redesigned website. You can also watch Karen being discussing the pamphlet on the Politics Show by visiting here.


Wales 20:20 4 December 2007 at 09:50  

Thanks for posting this, Miss W. The email list was a clerical error, now corrected. I'll also amend the blogroll later today.

Miss Wagstaff 4 December 2007 at 09:58  
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hafod 4 December 2007 at 17:04  

Pretty elementary stuff from Clwyd South's finest. People from N E Wales use services in NW England. But Sinclair's underlying agenda is to undermine both the move towards greater powers for Wales and also the Assembly Government's plan to deliver services in NE Wales... why bother when you've got all these fab services across the border?
Unfortunately for Sinclair, there are plenty of examples of cross-border use of services between independent neighbouring countries (the NHS sending patients to France and other European countries springs to mind).
Does Sinclair want more powers for the Assembly or is she firmly in the British Unionist camp alongside the flag-waving and flag-creating Lucas?

Carlo Marko 4 December 2007 at 17:24  

hafod - repeatedly using someone's surname doesn't make you sound intelligent, it makes you sound like a bit of a plonker. Here's a thought - try reading the pamphlet before touring the blogs trolling your blinkered Nationalist agenda.

Anonymous 4 December 2007 at 18:37  

Not worth the effort of reading it -where is the inspirationand verve in this?

Anonymous 4 December 2007 at 18:57  

Valleys Mam - your comment is so daft as to defy a sensible response. You will hardly uncover any 'inspiration and verve' in something that you refuse to read. I also trust that, as you are boycotting the publication, you will desist from commenting on the contents on other blogs.

hafod 5 December 2007 at 08:52  

Carlo - sorry to touch such a raw nerve. Do you think the pamphlet has any merit? I've read the pamphlet and struggled to find any original thinking in it.
What is original is the timing and the intention, which is to undermine her own Labour colleague Edwina Hart's attempts to create an all-Wales NHS.

Jahn Marek's Y-Fronts 5 December 2007 at 09:34  

Clearly not from North Wales, 'hafod', or you'd realise that Hart's vision for the NHS is fine if you live in South Wales. In the North, we've got a long history of usinf NHS setrvices in England. And, before you start with the Plaid spin, people from the English side use our services, too. Abnd for the record, you know you're in trouble when you start singing the praises of Edwina "say yes to everything aso people will like me" Hart.

Anonymous 5 December 2007 at 11:00  

Hafod - things don't necessarily have to be original to be good. The whole problem is that although it is common sense, cooperation between Wales and England isn't occuring enough - hence the need to flag it up in a pamphlet.

Anonymous 5 December 2007 at 11:02  

Valleys Mam - why bother blogging on something you haven't even read. Go away and read it and then perhaps your comments could be taken with a bit of worth behind them, at the moment it's just pointless.

hafod 5 December 2007 at 13:07  

Clearly not from North Wales, 'hafod', or you'd realise that Hart's vision for the NHS is fine if you live in South Wales.

I can understand why "Karen" has never heard of Hafod - that big hole near Johnstown - because she didn't bother with the campaign to stop waste from Liverpool being dumped in her constituency.
That's one issue that isn't in her pamphlet - cross-border waste dumping. Wonder why?
And I'm sure Hart will be delighted that her Labour colleagues are slagging her off - are you scared she's gone native?

Jahn Marek's Y-Fronts 5 December 2007 at 13:17  

"And I'm sure Hart will be delighted that her Labour colleagues are slagging her off - are you scared she's gone native?"

Couldn't give a toss what Hart thinks. And I'm not scared, I'm convinced.

Tim 5 December 2007 at 14:08  

Pamphlet seemed pretty good to me, admittedly not that revolutionary or original, but agree with Anon above - doesn't mean it's not worth reading though.
Karen Sinclair addressed all the important points for this issue and by writing a pamphlet I hope the issue is taken up and addressed at a higher level as it should be.

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