Thursday, 30 October 2008

Moving on up with Welsh Labour

You know me. I tend not to listen to rumour just as much as the next person. I tend to keep myself to myself, unless someone speaks so loudly that I can't help but hear.

Rumour has it that heads have been turned in the Assembly, in disgust at the way Eluned Morgan MEP has treated the party with contempt by first seeking re-selection for next year's European Election, only to pull out* when the prospect of bigger and brighter offers became apparent. Whatever some might think are bigger and brighter in the political world is purely speculative and remains to be seen.

Welsh Labour have already announced that each list member bounces up the list by one place, much to the delight of Lisa Stevens (Office Assistant to Eluned Morgan and next bright-young-thing in Labour's camp) whose prospect of becoming an elected politician is apparent, short of an election disaster for Labour.

Rumour has it that there are some who are eager to call for a re-opening of the Labour Euro selection process for Wales, which will undoubtedly be strongly resisted by Transport House, some even blame Transport House for their failure to make the top spot. Rumour has it that senior officers backed the selective few from very early on. In fact, if you were to have rummaged around on networking profiles during the selection process you would have seen Labour officials backing candidates that otherwise stood little chance of gaining a large percentage of votes. Oh, and these were the very same officers who were entrusted to keep the process fair and impartial.

If I were an eager observer of Welsh politics and concerned Labour supporter who cared about my party, what sort of questions would I be asking at this time?

  1. Did Labour receive any motion requests for the Llandudno conference in March that called for the Euro selection process to be halted because of concerns over a stitch-up?
  2. Was an official European office used for canvassing by candidates, against strict ethics rules? i.e. if a member of her staff called constituency secretaries to check they'd received correspondence and then asked if they would consider supporting them in the selection process it would contravene rules and standards in the European Parliament and the Labour Party.
  3. Why were calls for party hustings during the selection process repeatedly refused by Transport House?
  4. Does Eluned have any ambitions of being an Assembly Member, now or in the future?
Purely speculative, of course. You know me. I tend not to listen to rumour or gossip.

* Eluned Morgan MEP - who announced on Tuesday 14 October that she would not seek re-election to the European Parliament, after serving fifteen years as an MEP.

The full list of Welsh Labour’s candidates for the European election is as follows (as revised):

1. Derek Vaughan
2. Lisa Stevens
3. Rachel Maycock
4. Leighton Veale

37 comments:

Anonymous 30 October 2008 at 09:26  

I've heard that Lisa Stevens didn't receive that many votes campared to others in the party. Is that true?

Anonymous 30 October 2008 at 09:31  

It's known as gender zipping Miss Stevens received about 500 votes and lept above others in the vote to achieve a male/female balance.

Anonymous 30 October 2008 at 10:20  

Eluned campaigned hard for Lisa and was upset when Labour members gave more votes to other nominees.

gender balance balls up 30 October 2008 at 10:24  

Pippa, the votes counted were

Derek Vaughan 1946
Gareth Williams 1348
Lisa Stevens 471

Anonymous 30 October 2008 at 10:28  

I know Lisa, nice girl, but very 'insider clique'. It is hardly a shock that 'researcher goes on to be selected' though is it?

It is not just a labour problem that is for sure.

Anonymous 30 October 2008 at 10:34  

Anon 10:28

As Lisa took a very small percentage of the members' vote, it is embarrassing for the party as she is now almost certain to become an MEP.

Clearly the party has demonstrated that they have litle confidence in her by not voting in great numbers. This is no insult to her as she's just starting off in her political career. What a start!!!

Obama Cymru 30 October 2008 at 10:36  
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Anonymous 30 October 2008 at 10:37  

This is part and parcel of modern politics. People with no real experience climbing the greasy pole. In the Assembly we have Plaid members Bethan Jenkins and Nerys Evans; Nick Ramsay for the tories. Labour and the LibDems seem to have escaped this and are mainly made up of hasbeen old farts put out to pasture.

make up your mind 30 October 2008 at 10:41  

I've noticed the "well-known Labour insider" comments have returned to this blog. Miss Wagstaff referred to them in a previous post.

Miss Wagstaff can't be both Labour and Tory. Make up your mind chaps.

Anonymous 30 October 2008 at 10:45  

Eluned Morgan must be a pretty persuasive women in welsh Labour as I heard that many branches refused to back her during the nomination process - until a certain important someone in Welsh labour stepped in and had a word.

WelshLibDems4Jenny 30 October 2008 at 10:46  
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Anonymous 30 October 2008 at 10:47  

Ha ha

Angry telephone calls to branch secretaries are always on the cards.

Arty 30 October 2008 at 10:48  

Who's Gareth Williams? He's not on the final list of four!

Anonymous 30 October 2008 at 10:49  

Wasn't Luke Holland sacked as Labour Press Officer for the South West?

Obama Cymru 30 October 2008 at 10:55  
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Anonymous 30 October 2008 at 10:55  

What's with all this gender balance crap anyway? Politics is for blokes, it always has been, always will be.

And as for all these youngsters? Give me a break. No one under 40 deserves a vote, let alone to become an elected member.

WelshLibDems4Jenny 30 October 2008 at 10:58  

maybe be left his job in the Assembly because he realised Huw was never going to win the leadership election?!

Miss Wagstaff 30 October 2008 at 11:04  

"Miss Wagstaff can't be both Labour and Tory. Make up your mind chaps."

Good point. I've also defended Bethan Jenkins in the past, but have yet to be called a Plaidie. There's still time ;)

N.B. I'll be reviewing comments later so please don't use this post to have a go at colleagues, former colleagues on the staff list. Please try and stick to the thread 80% of the time.

Sarah 30 October 2008 at 11:05  

Lisa is a nice enough girl but you are right about her being in the Welsh Labour clique. I didn't know until the other day that she's the girlfriend of Martin Williams (Welsh Labour press officer and old enemy of Matt and luke from previous posts) so all this fits.

Lucy 30 October 2008 at 11:13  

Since Lisa Stevens' elevation what seemed like a pointless website now appears to be in need.

http://www.lisastevens.co.uk/

Anonymous 30 October 2008 at 11:23  
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Tom 30 October 2008 at 11:28  
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Anonymous 30 October 2008 at 11:28  

Arty asked who's Gareth Williams? He's not on the final list of four!

Does anyone know who he is as according to 'gender balance balls up said...' Derek Vaughan 1946
Gareth Williams 1348
Lisa Stevens 471

Is this not the correct final list?

Suze 30 October 2008 at 11:31  

Sounds like a candidate may have withdrawn.

Friend of Lisa 30 October 2008 at 11:32  

Sorry to disappoint but the Martyn Williams/Lisa story totally untrue.

She's certainly not that desperate.

Anonymous 30 October 2008 at 11:46  

Let's be honest - the rumours and speculation have less to do with rules and processes and more to do with the fact that there still plenty of miserable, bitter neanderthals who can't stand the fact that there are more (and highly competent) women in politics.

Miss or Mr Wagstaff - your post only goes to show why we need more women in elected office, your kind of politics is on the way out mate

Beccs 30 October 2008 at 11:50  

Sounds like you've received the official Labour response with anonymous 11:46, Miss Wagstaff.

Anonymous 30 October 2008 at 11:51  

"more (and highly competent) women in politics"

If the nuber of votes is accurate then this is a tragedy for the voters of Welsh Labour.

Ricard 30 October 2008 at 11:54  

"Miss or Mr Wagstaff - your post only goes to show why we need more women in elected office, your kind of politics is on the way out mate"

Have you even noticed the nonentities on the Labour seats in the Assembly? I'd glady have them all replaced tomorrow and with anyone.

Anonymous 30 October 2008 at 12:06  

Labour's infighting is not confined to the Euro list. I can't wait for the Cardiff West selection! Eluned versus Cardiff North loser Sophie Howe! Let war begin.

Anonymous 30 October 2008 at 12:50  

Luke must hate the fact that he's been passed over again.

Never mind Luke, if you're lucky you might get to be a losing council candidate in Splott next time.

Anonymous 30 October 2008 at 14:49  

Sorry to disappoint but the Martyn Williams/Lisa story totally untrue.

Don't think any of us actually believed it - probably Martyn fantasising posted himself.

Anonymous 30 October 2008 at 15:10  

hehe.

I bet martyn did post that comment himself!

LOL

Anonymous 30 October 2008 at 15:16  
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Stonemason 30 October 2008 at 18:26  

Anon 30 October 2008 11:46

Your "why we need more women in elected office, your kind of politics is on the way out mate"

Wrong, we need "good" politicians only !


What a lot of deletions ! ..... Did someone need a nap ?

interested bystander 30 October 2008 at 19:15  

You're right there Stoney.

The idea of this artificial gender 'balance' has been the ruin of politics generally.

From what I have seen, the female contingent of AMs and prospectives all fall into one of the following categories: shouty, weepy, pushy, sychophantic, time server and party apparatchik with little interest in efficiency but more with their particular party's dogma.

Come to think of it, the males aren't any better.

Where's Noah_Sembly when you need him?


Word verification: redcabil.....

That's spooky!

Ordovicius 1 November 2008 at 12:30  

Ordo's obviously gone off to lick his wounds

Bless. How's puberty coming along?

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